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Default 1/24th Grumman Widgeon-scratchbuilt

This has been a work in progress for several years.........Life and it's ups and down impeded work on it.........

It is a G-44a Grumman Widgeon.....

Pics are not the best, but I'm just learning how to use this digital thingy......







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Thud, are you serious man!!!!!? That is fan-shittin-tastic dude! Very clean looking build, what materials did you use? no wonder it took so long, that's one huge project mate.
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Thud, are you serious man!!!!!? That is fan-shittin-tastic dude! Very clean looking build, what materials did you use? no wonder it took so long, that's one huge project mate.
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Materials are mainly sheet styrene. Landing gear is brass tubing.....IIRC I had a set of plans from Grumman Archive Dept (company history)........Since they have merged with Northop I'm not surewhat the drill would be.....

Build keel first(as with a boat) side are laminated .20thou to .10thou stryene...inthe .20 thou I cut the window opening slightly larger then over layed 10thou and cut the window opening the right size....(lets you pop the clear plastic right in.)
Wing are carved bass wood covered in sheet styrene adhered with contact cement(spray)...........
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Thud, that is FANFLIPPINTASTIC WOW!!!
Got a paint scheme fingered out yet ?
If you need anymore detail pix let me know.
(I got a ton of 'em, as you well know)
Now, having dumped an "S"load of praise on your head I see one BIG oops.
Unless you're going to build the prototype G-44A you need to trim the main hull hull step off about even with the front edge of the rear cabin window.
Where you have the step now IS correct for a G-44/J4F, but on the "A" model they shortened the foresection about 9 inches and included the tunnel vents (that you've outlined in pencil).
I'm going to try to post a drawing here, lets see ...........

http://www.photoreflex.net/images/6k...uwvmzq5wd4.jpg

Keep me posted on this one.
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Well that didn't work the way I wanted it to, one more time.
BTW the original location was Sta. 15A, it was cut back to Sta. 15.

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Thud, that is FANFLIPPINTASTIC WOW!!!
Got a paint scheme fingered out yet ?
If you need anymore detail pix let me know.
(I got a ton of 'em, as you well know)
Now, having dumped an "S"load of praise on your head I see one BIG oops.
Unless you're going to build the prototype G-44A you need to trim the main hull hull step off about even with the front edge of the rear cabin window.
Where you have the step now IS correct for a G-44/J4F, but on the "A" model they shortened the foresection about 9 inches and included the tunnel vents (that you've outlined in pencil).
I'm going to try to post a drawing here, lets see ...........

http://www.photoreflex.net/images/6k...uwvmzq5wd4.jpg

Keep me posted on this one.
I'll see If I can't find them or the patterns....

Thanks!
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Thudman; That looks amazing, to be able to do that type of scratch building is a true skill. I've been doing some small stuff to practice for an up coming project. Your work is inspiring. Just one word of caution. Watch golf when modelling may cause you to fall asleep and put your head through your model.
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Holy snikees! That's a sweet build!
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WOW!......some great work there Old thudman.

That looks like a very hard project for a scratchbuild, you definatetly have my admiration.


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Thudman; That looks amazing, to be able to do that type of scratch building is a true skill. I've been doing some small stuff to practice for an up coming project. Your work is inspiring. Just one word of caution. Watch golf when modelling may cause you to fall asleep and put your head through your model.

Course you could have caught me watching cartoons........
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That's an amazing build! I'd love to see some of the techniques you use to build some of the "detail" items..
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That looks like a very hard project for a scratchbuild, you definatetly have my admiration.


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is "The Complete Car Modeller" by Gerald Wingrove........Until fairly recently he built model cars (from scratch).. Like 1/12, 1/16 (ish) scale stuff.....There are sections on making silicon rubber molds, hard wood molds (bang out metal fenders), making seats from wood (he used pear wood, but bass wood is great to carve).....etc.etc...............It's a good basic "how to" even if about cars.....
Some techniques comes from a Fine Scale Modeler article(s) (from 1985 IIRC) on a scratchbuilt Pilatus Porter...........The wings are bass wood (core) overlaid with 10 or 20 thou. styrene adhered using contact cement ...
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of Fine Scale Modeler july/august 1985.........Has a yellow Pilatus Porter on floats on the cover. Here's one source link below...Check your local library...Sometimes they carry FSM and keep copies of back issues........You can photocopy the articles.........

http://cgi.ebay.com.sg/ws/eBayISAPI....m=190312960775
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Smile Several of the vacuform patterns...

Unfortunately I have lost at least 3 of the pattern pieces.......However they can be easily remade.....






An article regarding vacuform patterns, but made of newer poly/urethane foam. material..
I 've seen test fixture pieces made with DuPont Corian......Apparently it machines much like acrylic.

http://www.starshipmodeler.com/other/bp_skimmer.htm
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Wow! This one's out of left field! Looking damn sharp man.
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That's a pretty challenging build - lots of compound curves and few straight lines to help you keeping things straight and level. May I ask what promted you to scratchbuild a Widgeon?

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That's a pretty challenging build - lots of compound curves and few straight lines to help you keeping things straight and level. May I ask what promted you to scratchbuild a Widgeon?

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floating planes.........That and the Goose (especially the Turbo-Goose), The DHC-2 Beaver......The PBY Catalina's.........

AS I stated above there was a scratchbuild 1/25 scale Pilatus Porter (on floats) in FSM in 1985.......Was very descriptive (step by step).....and I saw a chance to stretch my wings, as it were..........
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