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Default Legacy Hornets w/ AIM-7s?

Are these Sparrows or Harms under the wing of these Hornets? I thought Harms. People on ARC swear that they are Sparrows. I thought they quite using Sparrows.
http://www.dvidshub.net/unit/AFCENT#.VCTE6BY09Ms
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Sparrow's and AMRAAM's.

HARM's have squared of wings and fins, the the LAU-118 has a straight leading edge, a LAU-115 has an angled leading edge.

Sparrows are still inventory and are still carried.
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Thanks. Knew I could get a straight answer here.
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There are Super E/F's in that vid, not just legacy Hornets....just sayin'.
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With the single Sparrow - why?
Surely it's not that they don;t have enough AMRAAMs to go around which has to mean that the Sparrow is better in some circumstances than the AMRAAM.
Is this the case? If so what is the Sparrow better than the AMRAAM at?
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Nice Video!

F/A-18C Legacy Hornet VFA-?? Buno. ???
F/A-18F Super Hornet VFA-213 Black Lions Buno. AJ-213
F/A-18E Super Hornet VFA-31 Tomcatters CAGs Jet Buno. AJ-100

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With the single Sparrow - why?
Surely it's not that they don;t have enough AMRAAMs to go around which has to mean that the Sparrow is better in some circumstances than the AMRAAM.
Is this the case? If so what is the Sparrow better than the AMRAAM at?
With all due respect, don't expect an answer to this question from anyone in the know, that is a capability question and not something to be discussed on an open website.
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because someone at the pentagon thought "hey, lets mess with the guys on ARC, fly with these and sit back and watch".
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Fired from a specific launcher on the pylon.

http://s53.photobucket.com/user/Mlod...F-185.jpg.html

OPSEC as to why
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ahhh, fair 'nuf
Thanks anyway
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All loads are based on what the anticipated threat will be. Go look at Scramble on the Web for a pretty good comprehensive air order of battle by country in an open source. Slammers are very good for certain scenarios. The Sparrows are good in certain scenarios. Slammers are great against high fast maneuvering threats. The AIM-7M H builds and later have good low altitude capability. Newer AIM-9X Block IIs tied with pilot's Joint Helmet Mounted Cueing System was a game changer in Hornets. The standard conventional loads are all based on what the threat is and their patterns of life... Air Group Commanders will tell CAG Gunner how he will fight his Airwing and what to put on his/her jets. Answers the planning question of what will air breather threats do when they come out to play. I think the load you see is indicative of the MiG threat they were anticipating while in Syrian airspace. This mix was called The Load of Justice when I was at a Pacific fighter base.
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Are these Sparrows or Harms under the wing of these Hornets? I thought Harms. People on ARC swear that they are Sparrows. I thought they quite using Sparrows.
http://www.dvidshub.net/unit/AFCENT#.VCTE6BY09Ms
Because none of us who took the time to answer your question on ARC know shit about what's going on over there, right? Since you got the same answer here, are you going to go to Hyperscale and ask them too? If you want it to be a HARM, then just believe it is...
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i caught a lot of them carrying AIM7 SParrow...

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Shoot'm if you got'm! Probably a surplus of 7's. Why not carry them?
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I've learned a new word from that video. "Ruddervator".
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i caught a lot of them carrying AIM7 SParrow...

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These are fantastic pictures... Coincidentally CAG jets of the two squadrons that suffered a fatal mid-air a couple weeks ago.

I never noticed the insides of the Shrike CAG jet vertical stabs were almost entirely orange. Must give the pilot a headache when he looks through the rear view mirror!
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Hey, does anyone have any idea what the small white circle behind the blister on the right forward nose gear door is? It's common to both Supers and Legacies. I noticed those on the jets on static display a couple weekends ago at the Oceana air show.
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It's an antenna of some sort... Just a different shape than your average blade.

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