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Unread February 25th, 2011, 08:58 PM
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you can contact me offline for details...Tom Dunbar
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Unread February 25th, 2011, 09:36 PM
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Don't you think posting a "stiff" message without the details is a little odd? I mean, you've already outed the guy as a stiff in public, but you don't want to tell the story unless it's a PM? Call me crazy, but I think that's odd. I've personally done business with Dave and wasn't stiffed. Took awhile, but I got what I ordered. Did you truly get stiffed?
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Unread February 25th, 2011, 09:48 PM
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I've never had an issue with Dave, he may not always be the quickest to get something out the door, but hes a busy guy, and always delivers.
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Unread February 25th, 2011, 10:25 PM
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Seems bad form to call someone out for stiffing you here and over at ARC, and not posting the details so the person has a chance to tell his side. Why not tell everyone your side instead of doing drive-by postings?

Personally, I've done a number of transactions with Dave over the years and never had a problem.

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Are you off your gourd?? Dave has NEVER failed to follow through on a deal, ever. In fact, he's gone over and above on many deals!
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Unread February 26th, 2011, 12:49 AM
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Simply said - Dave Roof is cool with me. Had a few deals with and they all went very well. If you have beef with the speak to him about it. If that doesn't work tell your story and then give the man a chance to publicly explain himself.
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The trolls are out.
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Unread February 26th, 2011, 07:14 PM
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I bought a Cutting Edge U-2 intake set from him the other week and got it in 3 or 4 days.....and that was my 2nd or 3rd purchase from him from over the years.

Dave is a good guy.

I'm sure if something is wrong with your purchase/transaction, he will make it good.
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Unread February 26th, 2011, 07:17 PM
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We're all human and life sometimes interrupts a transaction or two. But like others here, I've done multiple purchases/trades with Dave and he's always been straight up with me, too.
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Unread February 26th, 2011, 07:48 PM
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4 posts to your credit and your calling out a guy that's been on this forum for a long time...I don't think so dude! Crawl back under your rock and go away!
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Unread February 26th, 2011, 08:04 PM
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Have the courtesy to explain, as Dave is a decent bloke, his rep is 100%
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Unread February 26th, 2011, 08:07 PM
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It was somethin' that happened over in Hyperscale: http://www.network54.com/Forum/40916...a+1-48+F-A-18D
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Unread February 26th, 2011, 08:16 PM
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that really doesn't justify the guy slagging DR off, as the situation begins to explain itself
in the thread...

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Unread February 26th, 2011, 08:29 PM
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Yeah, but the poster must be really ticked off about it. Time will pass...

Dealt with Dave before. Slow, but the trade was done and completed. Oh well. In other news...does anyone have 1/48 Mirage 2000C intake parts from the Italeri/ESCI kit? =)
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Unread February 27th, 2011, 05:01 PM
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Wow...that fell flat....
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Unread February 27th, 2011, 05:54 PM
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Dude pulled the same thread on ARc today
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Unread February 27th, 2011, 08:50 PM
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A Good Guy, YES! A Stiff, NEVER! WTF is wrong with you. You stupid or what?
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Unread February 27th, 2011, 09:43 PM
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Let me clarify one thing....Tom and I agreed to a specific time frame (approximately two months) to paint the cockpit. It took me much longer to complete it.

What I did not know, was that Tom was going to use the cockpit I painted for him in a kit that he was commissioned to build. It was explained to me that it was for a personal build.

Again, he has a right to be angry as I did not meet the time frame agreed to. However, I believe he is more upset at the fact that he lost money because he could not complete the commission build without the cockpit, as he blamed me in an email.

It doesn't matter, the cockpit is done and will be mailed to him this week. I also threw in some extras, but I'm sure no one will hear about what he gets on three web sites.

On the bright side, I have a kit 50% completed and I painted and applied decals to the vertical tails of the F/A-18D I started last year! Whoo Hoo!
Shit, he ought to get with me...cockpits are ALL I do, LOL!

Angry is one thing, slander is another...plus, I've seen your cockpits




What's with a dude who does commission work, but farms parts out?
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Unread February 27th, 2011, 09:55 PM
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What's with a dude who does commission work, but farms parts out?
I was kinda wondering the same thing?

I have had multiple deals with Dave and never had a problem.

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Unread February 28th, 2011, 03:17 AM
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I was wondering that too Scott and Doug. If you're good enough to accept commission work to build a model, you should be able to deal with a cockpit too. The fact that Dave stands up and accepts responsibility for failing on his part speaks volumes, but modelling is only a hobby and sometimes life gets in the way. I've certainly never had any problems dealing with Dave of Flying Leathernecks. Not always the quickest, but it always gets done.

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